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Spazzer · Sep 25, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Since we know that "dwarven" is not an armor set, we're at 31 armor sets.

That's Norn, Monument, and Asura for every class, and Silver Eagle for warriors.

I've looked everywhere, and I don't think I remember seeing where the other 9 armor sets are. Could anyone point me in the right direction? I don't think wiki is helping much.

arcanemacabre · Sep 25, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

False advertising is my guess.

trielementz · Sep 25, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

they probably counted in dwarven as well, and had sets within apostrophes when they refered to 40 sets. you know, 40 'sets', nevermind that designers later say dwarven is not a 'set'.

NeHoMaR · Sep 25, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

41 sets BTW, 82 counting male/female.

10 Asuran
10 Deldrimor
10 Monument
10 Norn
1 Silver Eagle

Why is not Deldrimor (or Dwarven) a full armor for you? For me it is.

Spazzer · Sep 25, 2007, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Straight from your wiki page on Deldrimor armor:

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It consists of several stand alone pieces specific to the profession and is not considered an armor set.

I ask again, where are those 9 armor sets?

fenix · Sep 25, 2007, 06:11 AM // 06:11

To quote the wiki:

It consists of several stand alone pieces specific to the profession and is not considered an armor set.

As it is not considered a set, it cannot be added to the Hall of Monuments.

So there's not 41 sets.

Faer · Sep 25, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Spazzer

Could anyone point me in the right direction?

Somewhere in the state of Washington. Probably in a vault somewhere, amidst piles of carrots, strings, and sticks.

Hope you're Bugs Bunny.

arcanemacabre · Sep 25, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Why is not Deldrimor (or Dwarven) a full armor for you? For me it is.

From Gaile (when asked about Dwarven armor not being a set):

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I can ask about this. I don't know that it's a bug, and your point about the pieces having different names (and therefore being less obviously "a set") is a good observation. I have sent an email to inquire if this may change in the future.

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And the answer is that there are no plans to make the Dwarven Armor into a set. They were designed as random pieces, and do not make up intended components of the HoM.

On the official wiki user talk page here.

It's officially not a set. May not be false advertising as I mentioned, since it is often worded as "40 new armor sets, including rare, stand-alone pieces" or something to that affect - but it is highly misleading. We all thought we were getting 40 new "sets," only to find out we got 31, with some mish-mash pieces and other common armor.

NeHoMaR · Sep 25, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36

So, dwarven armor wasn't designed? it fell of the sky? I mean, if developers design 4 sets per profession, that is 40 sets, no? doesn't matter if you can't buy all pieces in one NPC.

fenix · Sep 25, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

But it's not an armor SET, as the pieces don't make up a set. They are random armor PIECES, which is clearly different. Even so, they advertised 40 new armor sets, not 31 sets, almost all of which are reskins.

HawkofStorms · Sep 25, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Still, wheter Dwarven is counted as a "set" or not, the same amount of time was put into creating them as the other GW:EN armor (which is to say, not much). Whether you define it as a set or not, Dwarven is still ~80 new armor pieces (4 pieces per profession, 10 professions, male and female versions = 80 + however many classes have unique headgear x 2).

Its not really false advertising per say. Dwarven armor may not be a "set" but when seen next to all the other GW:EN armor, neither is Asuran, Norn, or Vanguard

cthulhu reborn · Sep 25, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

So, dwarven armor wasn't designed? it fell of the sky? I mean, if developers design 4 sets per profession, that is 40 sets, no? doesn't matter if you can't buy all pieces in one NPC.

The difference is that most dwarven armours when worn as a set look like it was thrown together, meaning that you look like you were very tired when you got dressed and that you cannot put it in your HoM because it is not an armour set.

cthulhu reborn · Sep 25, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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Originally Posted by fenix

But it's not an armor SET, as the pieces don't make up a set. They are random armor PIECES, which is clearly different. Even so, they advertised 40 new armor sets, not 31 sets, almost all of which are reskins.

Well they did say 40 new sets including stand alone pieces...I always did wonder what they meant with that and here we have it.

Spazzer · Sep 25, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

the same amount of time was put into creating them as the other GW:EN armor

trielementz · Sep 25, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

So, dwarven armor wasn't designed? it fell of the sky? I mean, if developers design 4 sets per profession, that is 40 sets, no? doesn't matter if you can't buy all pieces in one NPC.

most of us define 'set' by it being displayable in HOM (elite sets anyway). Dwarven armor cannot be displayed and each piece is named differently. Plus some professions have missing pieces (ranger arms etc) while some just look wrong placed together (assassin, according to many). it has even been confirmed to be not a set from gaile. all these make them standalone pieces, not part of the 40 sets.

fenix · Sep 25, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by Spazzer

We have a winner.

I have the EOTN box in my hand RIGHT NOW, and it clearly says "40 new armor sets". False advertising kthx.

RTSFirebat · Sep 25, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36

Guess they got it wrong with the numbers, A.net and plenty of large companies say one thing and delivery another.

Lets keep this chilled now, don't want to have to delete or close yet another flame fest ^^ But yes there doesn't seem to be 40 armour sets.

jrk247 · Sep 25, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

This reminds me of when Faction's was released and AB servers weren't working even though one of the main advertisements on the box was the new 12 vs. 12 alliance battles. Don't be surprised if HM isn't introduced in EotN for another month or 2.

Oh well, nothing we can do after they have our money. Bye Anet hope you get enough of your player base to go to GW2. GG?

NeHoMaR · Sep 25, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Oh! I get the point now!! so ArenaNet just needs rename the "dwarven" parts with the same name for make it an armor set (10 seconds job) and add the armor code to HoM armor list (5 seconds job).

And then every complainer will be happy, and the false advertising will disappear instantly?

Tijger · Sep 25, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Oh! I get the point now!! so ArenaNet just needs rename the "dwarven" parts with the same name for make it an armor set (10 seconds job) and add the armor code to HoM armor list (5 seconds job).

And then every complainer will be happy, and the false advertising will disappear instantly?

Nah, dont worry, they'll find another point to whine about

Since an 'armor set' is not defined it can be anything that Anet says is an armor set.